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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2015
Strange how many people ignore the lack of logic in their claims that the war was about slavery even though several Northern states were slave-holding and the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free the slaves in those states either. They also ignore the massive evidence (easily confirmed) that the real reason for the Southerners pulling their states out of the Union was because of the unjust taxation, in which they were paying far more than the Northern states. They also ignore the massive amounts of documentary evidence (including videos) of anti-racist groups using the Confederate flag in their logos, showing it's not a racist flag but means freedom from oppression.
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Professional Photographer
I live in the South.  I like the South.  I don't like this flag.

Here's what the designer of the Confederate Flag said about his own creation - “As a people we are fighting to maintain the heavenly ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause. Such a flag would be a suitable emblem of our young confederacy, and sustained by the brave hearts and strong arms of the south, it would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN’S FLAG.”

And this was a battle flag used to kill American soldiers wage a war explicitly to protect the institution of slavery.  If you'd like, I can give you quotes from the declarations of secession passed by the various southern legislatures to officially withdraw from the US.  They were very clear that they were leaving to support slavery.  It didn't become a cultural norm to pretend the civil war wasn't about slavery until much more recently in US history. 

After the war, no one really used this flag as a symbol to represent the South.  For a very long time.  in the 1940s, about 8 decades later,  the Dixiecrats and KKK brought it into popular use, really for the first time, in their own campaigns explicitly designed to hurt black people.

Only then did it start to become a cultural symbol for the South.

I think there's plenty of room for people to mean different things when they use this symbol.  But its history is also pretty clear.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I'm sick of everyone trashing one of the things that I dedicated my life to supporting, aside from Christianity, the Confederate States of America is what I represent in my life. I am a fellow American and I represent and support the Confederate States of America not for racism over African Americans, but for political freedom and the preservation of the Republic that the United States of America was meant to be in the beginning. The governmental idea of a Confederation is a union of political units for common action in relation to other units. The Confederate States of America stand for states rights from a controlling national Unionist government which was at the time of the Civil War, a wide spread liberal Union which was bent on the ideas of workers unions which still exist to this day. The Confederate States of America was established to be free from industrial intimidation of the northern states in America, the controlling central governmental power over the state governments and the idea that the national economy at the time, could rebuild itself from slave labor.

      Do not get me wrong, I am in no way or form a racist, I love all human beings and respect only those who will respect me, but the Confederate States were more than just a bunch of racist Dixie folk, they were political philosophers, farmers, care takers, and bankers. During the Civil War, African Americans were actually allowed to fight aside the men of the Confederate Army aside from the racism from more than half of the men on in the military. Not everyone of the Confederate States were racist against African Americans at the time, and not all Confederate supporters today are racist towards African Americans like myself. I am a politically motivated Confederate supporter and nobody can change my mind. I am a Confederate, I will always be a Confederate, and no African American, no Union supporter, and no Liberal activist will stop me from supporting what I belief is a true way of government for the United States of America.

Here is a link that has everything said above which is a tribute to the Confederate States and what I view the Confederate States as what they once were. - oddgarfield.deviantart.com/art…

God bless everyone who reads this and I do hope to get some feed back of the opinions of the people on the Internet.
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The confederacy was created to maintain slavery (go and read the actual instruments of succession). The debates in the S. Carolina convention noted that succession was the only alternative to having their children live in a condition of equality with blacks, which they would gladly murder to prevent. They wanted to be able to go on raping and beating their slaves. no one believes your pathetic bullshit claim not to be a racist. As for being an American, the confederacy was nothing but pure treason against America, in favor of keeping slaves. Cretin!
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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015
Actually, that's not true.

You've been told that crap in school, probably, but the true motivation for secession was extremely unfair taxation without fair representation.

"They did it for maintaining slavery" is a dumb argument that ignores the fact of several Northern states which were also slave-holding.
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Appetitive-Soul Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2015
Succession proceeded state by state with a deceleration made by each state legislature. All 11 of them list the threat to slavery (Lincoln had said he would not allow it to spread to the Western territories, but had no plan to end it where it existed) as the main reason justifying their succession. Or are you calling those men liars?
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I'm not calling them "liars", you're using a strawman, I've seen out-of-context misrepresentations many times before. On both sides. In this case, I checked into your claim about the state declarations and discovered that those declarations have been misrepresented by many people.

THE SECESSION DECLARATIONS

From the book “The Un-Civil War”, by Leonard M. Scruggs, pages 27-28.

Four seceding Southern states published some form of declaration of their reasons for secession. These were South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas. Many modern academic allies of the Northern War to Prevent Southern Independence have recently taken up the cry that because these declarations have many references to slavery that they are proof that the war was all about slavery. First of all, however, there is a difference between the cause of the war and the causes for secession. The cause of the war was Lincoln’s call for 75,000 troops to invade the Southern states. This invasion immediately triggered four more states secessions – Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Arkansas – in addition to protests from the governors of Kentucky and Missouri, and unrest in Maryland.

In addition, the substance of the secession declarations must be interpreted in their political/economic and constitutional contexts. The Northern Union had become an oppressive government dedicated to Northern regional dominance and almost exclusively Northern economic prosperity. States Rights were the primary bulwark against this Northern regionalism. Many modern apologists for the Union cause also fail to recognize that these declarations, following South Carolina’s example, were building a legal case against Northern breaches of the Constitution. Moreover, much of the language of these declarations was a protest against the constant inflammatory distortions and repeated attacks on Southern honor by radical abolitionists in Congress and in the Northern press.

The Mississippi declaration included an admission of its economic dependence on slave labor. However, over-dramatizing this admission in accusatory terms fails to recognize a genuine dilemma. Many Southerners, probably a majority, would have gladly rid themselves of slavery. But how could it be done without destroying the economies of the major cotton producing states and severely damaging New York banking and shipping interests? Many also saw the necessity of preparing the slaves to compete in a free economy before emancipation. Many would have followed the British model of gradual emancipation with compensation to slave owners.

What the secession declarations prove is that Southerners had strong reasons to believe that their political rights and economic welfare were unsafe under Northern political dominance.”



The Southern states were the source of 87% of the tariff revenue for the Federal government, 80% of that money was spent in the North, the major beneficiaries of this were the Northern manufacturers and rich elites in the North. So, the South was being robbed through unfair tariffs, and the Northern wealthy were just getting richer from the legalized robbery. Of course, the rich Northern manufacturers dominated USA's Congress and the USA's Senate.

The real causes of dissatisfaction in the South with the North, are in the unjust taxation and expenditure of the taxes by the Government of the United States, and in the revolution the North has effected in this government, from a confederated republic, to a national sectional despotism.”

~ The Charleston Mercury stated this 2 days before Lincoln was elected.

Thaddeus Stevens, told a New York audience that the new Morill Tariff would enrich the north-eastern states and impoverish the southern and western states.

Before any of the Southern states had seceded, the Morill Tariff was passed by Congress. The Southerners were thoroughly outvoted and protested. The resulting taxation would triple over the next 3 years. It was only then, that the Southern states began to secede, seeing what was happening. They were being treated like shit and they weren't happy about it.


Charles Dickens used his magazine, All the Year Round, to attack the new tariff. On December 28, 1861 Dickens published a lengthy article, believed to be written by Henry Morley, which blamed the American Civil War on the Morrill Tariff: If it be not slavery, where lies the partition of the interests that has led at last to actual separation of the Southern from the Northern States? …Every year, for some years back, this or that Southern state had declared that it would submit to this extortion only while it had not the strength for resistance. With the election of Lincoln and an exclusive Northern party taking over the federal government, the time for withdrawal had arrived … The conflict is between semi-independent communities [in which] every feeling and interest [in the South] calls for political partition, and every pocket interest [in the North] calls for union … So the case stands, and under all the passion of the parties and the cries of battle lie the two chief moving causes of the struggle. Union means so many millions a year lost to the South; secession means the loss of the same millions to the North. The love of money is the root of this, as of many other evils... [T]he quarrel between the North and South is, as it stands, solely a fiscal quarrel.

Sources:
The Un-Civil War - Shattering the Historical Myths
by Leonard M. Scruggs

The Truth About Abraham Lincoln
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-W5fG…

Abraham Lincoln: What They Won't Teach You in School
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyNS1P…

cwcrossroads.wordpress.com/201…

www.wral.com/news/local/story/…


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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
First of all, I am not a racist, I love all Human beings.

You obviously know only one cause of why the Confederacy was established sir. The Confederate States were established for states rights over governmental oppression of a specific state governments personal ways of operation, the defense of the economy that helped the south compete with the industrialized economy of the northern states, and the defense of the south as some of the Confederate soldiers were only defending their homeland from people who would dare change their way of life.

You sir do not know me and have no right to claim that I am a racist, that any Confederate supporter is a racist, if you look back in history to the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, the Confederate battle flag began to be seen as a symbol of racism because of the Klu Klutz Klan using it for their personal use in the defense of racism and therefor gave the flag a wrongful meaning that was not it's original purpose.

I am not saying all Confederate supporters are not racist, the kid that shot up the church in Charleston, SC was motivated by racism and was using the Confederate flag wrongfully just like the KKK did. Me personally, I think that all racists of the world should be imprisoned or shot dead for thinking that their skin color is better than another skin color.

If you see the Confederates as treasonists, then maybe I'm one myself, I don't like the national government constantly looking at what I do, control what I do culturally, and act like they know what is best for every community in this country to where the community may know what is best for themselves and does not want the national government to be snooping in their local business.



I respect you on your thoughts, but please do not be another ignorant individual who thinks that they know everything about the Confederacy and the supporters today. Some of us are not racist and support the Confederacy for political reasons and fly the Battle Flag in respect to the fallen Confederate soldiers like others do with the POW MIA flag.
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PoniesWithCarsRule Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015
I agree with a lot of this. A lot of people will say "The Confederates fought for slavery" (which is a stupid thing to fight over anyway), when they actually didn't. Like every other country in the world, Including USA, they were fighting for their home country. To keep their country alive and strong. And if you think about it, if the CSoA were still a thing today, they would also have a ban on slavery. Just like the rest of America.

Also, a fun fact, I live in a Ex-Confederate state.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
You speak the truth PoniesWithCarsRule, I respect your views of the Confederacy and I am glad that you are not one of the ignorant ones who either like to stir up trouble with lies or are just not educated on the topic If the Confederate States of America still existed today, slavery would be abolished as it is in almost every single nation today. 

I also like in a Ex-confederate state, North Carolina!
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PoniesWithCarsRule Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015
The thing is, people cannot let go of the past and look into the present and future and see how much America has changed since the Civil War. While I'll admit, the past was a little ugly, things have changed DRAMATICALLY today. Today, we all respect one another. No matter what color, age, gender or state. We all respect, help, and look out for one another.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Most of us respect each other, some adults today in America that were kids in the 1960s and 1970s were raised to be racist because of the Civil War. This being said, they were taught wrong and must be reeducated. Racism and slavery is wrong, no question to be asked. We must stop white supremacists from groups like the KKK, we must stop black  supremacists from groups like the Black Panthers, and so forth so that we can together, build a better society with the past in the past.

Yes, you are right in a since though, America has changed dramatically since the Civil War. I just wish people were knowledgeable of what the Confederate States were establoshed for and not just seen as racist by the opinions of the uneducated.
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PoniesWithCarsRule Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015
True. Even after the Civil War the grudge about the color of people's skin still remained, up until MLK. So the past is still raw to some people. But regardless, America has changed for the better since those events. People have changed since then, as well as their thoughts. It might be hard for some, but we can still look past the dark times and look ahead and today and beyond.

As for the Confederacy...
While it was a dark past, like any other pre or post war item, it's history should be preserved for generations to come. Not to teach how grim the past was, but to teach how far America has come from the scars of it's past.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Well said.
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Rebel-Rider Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Thank you for agreeing with my views of the Confederate flag, we're not alone of this thinking.
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Rebel-Rider Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
No, we're not. I think right now, we need to let our voices be heard so people know it's not just a racist minority who are pro-South.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
We need to make a public peaceful march to express our reasons of why we support the Confederacy for reasons other than racism or the defense of slavery. America must hear our demand for equal rights to the supporters of the Confederate States of America who deserve to not be seen as racists equally and announce that united, we can express our views publicly and help destroy racism in the mist.

Besides, if racist white supremacists want to have a banner to signify their racism, isn't there a banner for the KKK?
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Rebel-Rider Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Around here, there aren't many people so I don't think there'd be much of a march. :( There are only about 100 people spread over an entire county. 

Good question. 
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Hm, maybe somewhere else with the same people organized?
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Rebel-Rider Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Montana is pretty far away from the pro-south people. I think I'll stick to the internet for now.
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omartibayan Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
i love confederate flags
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Appetitive-Soul Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2015
Murder any black people yet?
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GreenStranger Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hopefully he hasn't because those crybabies don't need any more opportunities to lick their wounds. 
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atillawolf Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
thanks...........
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worddigger Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2011   Filmographer
I would like to ask your permission to use this Confederate Flag artwork as the background for a book cover. My wife has written a novel, based on a Civil War story, and the shading of this flag perfectly conveys the mood of the story. Thank you.
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Lepescu Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011
Hell yeah! That's great! I made a new wallpaper! Tyvm!
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spudzilla Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010
Nice work. Heritage, not hate.
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rockanatic Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Indeed [link] :)
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azazello- Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2010
Stunning work!
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rockanatic Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Thanks! :)
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idanfima Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2009
my new desktop, awesome!!
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MarksA-C Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2009
Thats awesome!! My new desktop!
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rockanatic Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Thanks :)
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Redneck-Werewolf Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2009
awesome!
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rockanatic Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Thanks!
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Redneck-Werewolf Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2009
youre welcome!
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Stevie-Wonder Featured By Owner May 24, 2009
OMG. If you made a 1920*1200 version for me, you'd be my hero!
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rockanatic Featured By Owner May 26, 2009  Student Digital Artist
[link]

Hope the quality is ok for you! :P
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